I'm not sure if I said the '50 option messages' thing originally but I guarantee
all the mods would agree if there were too many more options, efficiency would
go flop (like when you log in that one time and there are 40 reports!).
I believe there has been talk about revising the botchii messages in the near
future just as the policy has been revised, however the basic fact remains it's
the newer members who complain about such things because they're not yet aware
of how the site functions, it's true with a new person in any situation and will
probably never change. I say this in terms of policy, botchii automation and
sometimes common sense (DIE DUPLICATES DIE).
If we wanted to go backwards in the whole 'making it obvious' process I say we
petition to sheqel to have the botchii userpage opened again That
userpage was like the best part of MT '^.^'
1) it's bolded
2) simple 3 capital alphabets
3) located far [separate] from other links. direct attention captured. that
which will say "hey, i'm alone! click me please!"
well, i don't think such mature treads will ever re-appear again, because there
are more immature treads growing now.
aside, i don't really think members care who sends the botchii. directly, it's
the content they got 'offended'
example like mine:
Quote: Your scan you submitted
entitled Fasio KOSE, was removed from Minitokyo, because it was deemed that the
it was of insufficient quality, which can be caused by one or more of the
following:
- The image dimensions were too small. Only scans with 1,000,000 or more pixels
are allowed. You can calculate the amount of pixels by multiplying the width of
the image with the height.
- The scan contains excessive artifacts. This includes, but is not limited to,
page folds, dust, noise, text or other markups on the image. Scanned images need
to be scanned at least at 200dpi to conform to the quality demands required on
Minitokyo.
- The image was too blurred. Only sharp scans are accepted. Please do not
attempt to 'filter' scans in Photoshop, as this usually further reduces
quality.
- The featured character was not visible enough, or unusable for wallpaper
purposes.
-The majority of the image features either blank space, magazine text, or
multiple under-sized images.
- The scan did not feature an anime-style image. See this announcement for more
information: http://forum.minitokyo.net/showthread/35992/
Sincerely,
Minitokyo Staff
This is an automated message and cannot be replied.
You can always post your picture in the Anime Picture Dump.
Feedback can be directed at the moderator of the gallery your entry was in,
which are saikusa, marissa, Revan.
possibly it's because many don't notice the sentence ".....which can be
caused by one or more of the following:".
the word one or more isn't well noticed.
many will look straight to the points below. that which aren't related to them
sounds 'unfair' to them.
what's more, many (eeesssppeecciiaallyyy new members) don't really understand
the function of automated message.
littlejonny once said if this auto message is simplified in specific points,
there will be 50 reasons to chose from, which is a hassle than improved.
____________________________________
oh, not to forget, Happy Birthday to you, kuroimisa *hands
in strawberry cookies*
Incredibly simple, but it's a LOVELY annoying link to click on the FAQ link
after browsing about 10 pages.
Isn't that nice?
PS: About those threads, we haven't got a clearly defined section on mature
threads/ posts. We will soon- hopefully.
PPS: About bot[chii], the PMS should at the top have in big bold letters
"THIS IS AN AUTOMATED MESSAGE" and make it clear that it's at least
one, or a combination of the reasons listed.
We really can't make them more specific than they are at the moment- but we can
change the format to prevent any more confusion/ outrage, I suppose.
Quote by kuroimisaIt's very hard to get
everyone to read the policy- snippets may or may not work. but then there's the
question who will go around reminding members and how often? How much is enough?
Especially with the new members... *screams*
i wonder if there is a system of keeping track of their arrival (after
registered) might work or not. not in a sense of intruding their privacy, but to
check for any violation. once they are well on without policy violation for a
period of time, they can be 'released'.
perhaps that might reduce, though not wholly, the "i don't know this is
against the rules" problem.
Quote by kuroimisaIt's just this little
text link at the bottom of every page, and also right at the end of the top menu
bar... perhaps we can make it more prominent like "SUPPORTTTT CLICK
MEEE" (which is why my userpage skin design says that the support section
needs love >.>) - or in a more prominent place? A link in your control
panel?
something that is noticeable might work. however, even the link below doesn't
look like "HEY! THIS IS URGENT!" and
seldom people scroll down to see and it doesn't seem 'jolted' out from th rests
of the links.
better to make an announcement to collect more ideas, if possible.
Quote by SpystreakTaking specific
snippets from the policy actual might work. Pain the in butt for us but I mean
if it'll work hey why not give it a shot.
Uh probably just contradicted myself big time there but oh well . In short I
think it's a good idea to try and find different means of informing members of
the rules is a good idea rather then posting a link and teling them to
read.
Got the point
as i mentioned before, it might work if we just quote the relevant rules than
just giving the link. plus, to save time writing the same message, just save
your words in some other file and use it when it's time to
(sounded like [bot]chii messaging )
i remember once when i had to teach my classmate-friend (a new member) on the
purpose of groups, after show him the policy page on groups, his eyes rolled on
how long it was as if
saying "what?! so damn long!"
Quote by SpystreakAlthough there is
that chance that it'll backfire and things will just end up staying the same.
Let's face members aren't happy in general. They're tired of us making all these
changes. By us quoting specific rules all the time well let's just put it this
way it might not make them any happier
it's already a fact, and it takes one a mature mindset to accept something that
is 'against' them (eg: unhappy when their wallie was deleted)
......and it's similar to students hating school prefects
another matter is many (especially new members) misunderstood the [bot]chii
message. they mistaken that all the statements there are the reasons of
deletions. and it happen again>>> How to get my
work OFF?
i suggest [bot]chii should add a noticeable note (disclaimer?) to explain this. this saves too
another hassle.
i wouldn't say i'm that patient on such 'deletion' thing months before, but
seriously, it takes patience to understand why this, why that before i agree
with these implementations.
Quote by kuroimisaI've deleted several
from the Deletions Complaint forum (like prior to today) because he doesn't read
the Clarification thread, and happens to like to comment randomly when he's not
clear of our policy at all. It's kind of... hatred.
i noticed his posts too. well, actually he's been like this all the
while....sometimes depressed and a little to the point of 'suicidal'. take a
look at his guestbook and you will understand.
i think this one>>> Want to say
goodbye is the clear evident to such unhappiness. her userpage is even full
of hatred.
________________________________________________
Quote by SpystreakWow this groups still
alive and kicking.
All thanks to kuroimisa
GO, MISA! GO GO!
merged: 05-17-2007 ~ 02:14pm
meanie~
this member seems doesn't know how to create proper treads. he just put the
links, or short words...... http://darkizaak.minitokyo.net/
and being a 39 weeks old member is like......... terribly annoying
Well, since we changed the policy, and it's technically something that'll affect
the community, we should make a service announcement
It's very hard to get everyone to read the policy- snippets may or may not work.
but then there's the question who will go around reminding members and how
often? How much is enough? Especially with the new members... *screams*
It's just this little text link at the bottom of every page, and also right at
the end of the top menu bar... perhaps we can make it more prominent like
"SUPPORTTTT CLICK MEEE" (which is why my userpage skin design says
that the support section needs love >.>) - or in a more prominent place? A
link in your control panel?
Maybe after logging in after like being inactive for a year you are prompted
with "have you read the latest version of our policy?" (but then
that's like a quiz, and it won't work )
Well, we'll figure out something...
I'm not really going to comment on those posts until they get really extreme and
annoying. I've deleted several from the Deletions Complaint forum (like
prior to today) because he doesn't read the Clarification thread, and happens to
like to comment randomly when he's not clear of our policy at all. It's kind
of... hatred.
EDIT/ BUSTED!
As for that Jason guy, I already wrote him a post on his thread, and it's
basically his responsibility to reply to me. I don't have the time to go around
chasing up everyone- especially when I've made myself very clear.
Last but not least with the Japanese translation of the policy, despite the
small number of actual Japanese members in comparison to other nationalities,
because we're a Japanese culture orientated site, I do believe that there will
be some interest to have a policy in Japanese- because that's what we're about.
I guess it doesn't really make much sense if you don't have a Japanese page,
when it's about Japanese animation.
Oh the age old question of how do we get members aware of the rules. Well in the
end it's just going to be a losing battle I suppose. Heck I'll admit I never
read the bloody policy either.
Taking specific snippets from the policy actual might work. Pain the in butt for
us but I mean if it'll work hey why not give it a shot. Although there is that
chance that it'll backfire and things will just end up staying the same. Let's
face members aren't happy in general. They're tired of us making all these
changes. By us quoting specific rules all the time well let's just put it this
way it might not make them any happier. Heck they think we already have too many
rules as is. If you look at some of the recent post by http://vatican92.minitokyo.net you'll
see what I mean. Non chat lounge posts that is.
Uh probably just contradicted myself big time there but oh well . In short I
think it's a good idea to try and find different means of informing members of
the rules is a good idea rather then posting a link and teling them to read.
Well, I supposed you can offer to question him (by pm) once he announces he has
understood.
From the perspective of these members, the policy looks too long for them to be
read.
I suggest we can point to them which section they need to know (step-by-step
learning) because the 'off thing' is they may think they need to read the whole
scroll to understand their mistake. For example, if they repeat the mistake in
gallery section, point to them the gallery rules. It may sound like we are
pampering them, but (will that be?) solving lasting problems once and for all
[Confession : i never read the policy too when I first joined in, but learned
them by observation on others (despite the registration's first page is policy
scroll) ]
___________________________________________
I would say that project would benefit greatly. ^____________^ it may even
encouraged more interaction (participation) and would help a lot to bridge
understanding.
For the Japanese part, i don't really think there are a lot of Japanese members
here either. There are many who fake their nationality out of racial-novelty
___________________________________________
Quote: All doujinshi submissions
must be properly scanned using a scanner. Members may not submit digital camera pictures of drawings or low
quality scans of artwork. Moderators reserve the right to determine the quality
of the image and will delete images of low clarify or resolution.
There's this doujinshi which I guess need clarification:
In this painting arashi (i
painted from Arashi by Clamp) by x2006 the owner is said to have
photographed rather than scanned it because it is A3 size (note the 4th
post).
But as i download it, it doesn't seem low in quality (and even listed as
elite!).
Randomly: My parents are from Hong Kong and I've been there about 5 times in my
life. A lot of them are very well educated and fluent in english- some aren't,
but that's because they probably never really liked learning it, like my cousin
for instance. He only knows how to say "cheeseburger", because I
taught him that
PPS: He is now 24 years old
=====
As for second languages, there was a large project with the manga and
multilingual policy thingy that just flopped.
If that project could get underway that'd be great- it'd really be of great help
to those who can't understand much english at all.
I'm not going to even talk about people who know english yet don't bother to
read the policy...
Perhaps we can restart that project? Just in the really big languages:
- Chinese
- Japanese
- French
- Spanish
- Tagalog/ Filipino (because their community here is hugeeee)
(Less obvious)
- German, Italian, Dutch, Korean (?)
I dunno. It'd take a long time especially since Minitokyo doesn't seem to
support "characters" very well (being chinese).
I could do the Chinese one (at a very slow rate) and bits of the Japanese... but
hmmm. I guess we'll have to see o_o
EDIT/ as for warnings, I never give newbies warnings. I give them friendly
guestbook posts, but anyone floating around for more than a month I think should
have read the policy by then- especially if they've had an item already deleted
before ;D
Tags look at quantity rather than quality so I personally haven't looked twice
at them
The amount of people who receive a first warning for the simple fact they didn't
read the policy is high. I no longer hand out warnings for a single rip in the
first day or so of membership because of this, I've also found that once one
item is removed the botchii message generally turns a light on.
Also those who go on to receive second warnings are often those who have English
as a second language, that is many people probably wouldn't be able to read the
policy and make sense of it anyway. For example the member there was from Hong
Kong, so it does become difficult to determine individual circumstances on the
internet. Making sure people understand the rules before they're
unrestricted.......we could always create a policy exam but
that wouldn't work very well either.
lol......i heard that there's even a 'leecher' tag. i wonder how long is needed
in order to obtain that tag since leeching isn't participating?
btw, regarding this person mingcheongjasonskychan
you've just restricted, i guess he doesn't really understand one simple thing:
copyrights
in his pm to me:
Quote: so basically i dont have to
do anything and just wait for them to un-restricted me?
thank you for helping as well.
(note the first line he wrote)
he seems sooo lazy to read the policy. i guess it's going to be 'back to basics'
old school teachings.
so, i think it will go a long way for him. added with that sheer laziness, man,
how on earth is he going to demonstrate that he understood the gallery
rules.....
Because the system isn't very intelligent- it only looks at the stats and not
the quality of stats. It's also because perhaps her activity has been pretty
high for the time she's been here- which isn't long.
merged: 05-11-2007 ~ 07:00am
Rephrase: it's not possible to write the system up to look at the quality of
stats- chances are if you think that long posts are better quality, think again:
there are spam posts repeating themselves over and over.
Nevertheless, the tags aren't very meaningful at this stage- it's only when they
are searchable and become actual links when this will be a problem. I think that
tags are being worked on, though
Hmm I overlooked the factor of monitor resolutions. Yes I do have a widescreen
monitor on my laptop, 1280x800.
So how about we keep the banner the way it was and just put use html to center
it, so who ever come to the page will have it centered regardless of monitor
size? Adding white space doesn't look as good as before.
EP: Do you have a larger screen/ wider screen than me?
Here's my screenshot:
(Yah, my monitor is still the ole 1024x768. When I got it at the time, I thought
to myself, "17" will never make it big!" and ho! Widescreens and
all ;D)
I guess I can tweak the div background and center the banner...
merged: 05-06-2007 ~ 08:20pm
... ha. ha.
I forgot the screenshot
merged: 05-06-2007 ~ 08:28pm
Okay, I mucked around with the html, but I don't know if it did anything because
I can't stretch my window
Give me a shout if it still isn't centered or doesn't have a white background...
and I'll tweak the jpeg instead
Misa, do you wanna tweak the banner so it fills the entire width of the center
column rather than leave a chunk blank to the right? It could be as simple as
extending the gray backdrop to "here to help" out for another ~100
pixels on each side. I think it'd look better if our banner filled up the entire
width, since everything else is centered.
^_^' well, it's common around that anime groups can be afiliated with anyone
though
A common practice without restriction, i mean
it's all because my administered groups are anime-related. but what i mean here
is to publicized this group. i don't think anyone has ever pass by this group.
we should be in service with anyone outside there
I'm not sure if I said the '50 option messages' thing originally but I guarantee all the mods would agree if there were too many more options, efficiency would go flop (like when you log in that one time and there are 40 reports!).
I believe there has been talk about revising the botchii messages in the near future just as the policy has been revised, however the basic fact remains it's the newer members who complain about such things because they're not yet aware of how the site functions, it's true with a new person in any situation and will probably never change. I say this in terms of policy, botchii automation and sometimes common sense (DIE DUPLICATES DIE).
If we wanted to go backwards in the whole 'making it obvious' process I say we petition to sheqel to have the botchii userpage opened again
That
userpage was like the best part of MT '^.^'
wow..... O__O
i guess it's because.....
1) it's bolded
2) simple 3 capital alphabets
3) located far [separate] from other links. direct attention captured. that which will say "hey, i'm alone! click me please!"
well, i don't think such mature treads will ever re-appear again, because there are more immature treads growing now.
aside, i don't really think members care who sends the botchii. directly, it's the content they got 'offended'
example like mine:
possibly it's because many don't notice the sentence ".....which can be caused by one or more of the following:".
the word one or more isn't well noticed. many will look straight to the points below. that which aren't related to them sounds 'unfair' to them.
what's more, many (eeesssppeecciiaallyyy new members) don't really understand the function of automated message.
littlejonny once said if this auto message is simplified in specific points, there will be 50 reasons to chose from, which is a hassle than improved.
____________________________________
oh, not to forget, Happy Birthday to you, kuroimisa
*hands
in strawberry cookies*
Hey, just thinking about the "CLICK ME" thing, I realised there was this page:
http://qdb.us
Incredibly simple, but it's a LOVELY annoying link to click on the FAQ link after browsing about 10 pages.
Isn't that nice?
PS: About those threads, we haven't got a clearly defined section on mature threads/ posts. We will soon- hopefully.
PPS: About bot[chii], the PMS should at the top have in big bold letters "THIS IS AN AUTOMATED MESSAGE" and make it clear that it's at least one, or a combination of the reasons listed.
We really can't make them more specific than they are at the moment- but we can change the format to prevent any more confusion/ outrage, I suppose.
i wonder if there is a system of keeping track of their arrival (after registered) might work or not. not in a sense of intruding their privacy, but to check for any violation. once they are well on without policy violation for a period of time, they can be 'released'.
perhaps that might reduce, though not wholly, the "i don't know this is against the rules" problem.
something that is noticeable might work. however, even the link below doesn't look like "HEY! THIS IS URGENT!"
better to make an announcement to collect more ideas, if possible.
Got the point
(sounded like [bot]chii messaging 
)
as i mentioned before, it might work if we just quote the relevant rules than just giving the link. plus, to save time writing the same message, just save your words in some other file and use it when it's time to
i remember once when i had to teach my classmate-friend (a new member) on the purpose of groups, after show him the policy page on groups, his eyes rolled on how long it was
as if
saying "what?! so damn long!"
it's already a fact, and it takes one a mature mindset to accept something that is 'against' them (eg: unhappy when their wallie was deleted)
......and it's similar to students hating school prefects
another matter is many (especially new members) misunderstood the [bot]chii message. they mistaken that all the statements there are the reasons of deletions. and it happen again>>> How to get my work OFF?
i suggest [bot]chii should add a noticeable note (disclaimer?) to explain this. this saves too another hassle.
i wouldn't say i'm that patient on such 'deletion' thing months before, but seriously, it takes patience to understand why this, why that before i agree with these implementations.
i noticed his posts too. well, actually he's been like this all the while....sometimes depressed and a little to the point of 'suicidal'. take a look at his guestbook and you will understand.
i think this one>>> Want to say goodbye is the clear evident to such unhappiness. her userpage is even full of hatred.
________________________________________________
aside, is this PORN? (checkout her treads and gb)
>>> http://miyukikobayakawa.minitokyo.net/
All thanks to kuroimisa
GO, MISA! GO GO!
merged: 05-17-2007 ~ 02:14pm
meanie~
this member seems doesn't know how to create proper treads. he just put the links, or short words......
http://darkizaak.minitokyo.net/
and being a 39 weeks old member is like......... terribly annoying
Well, since we changed the policy, and it's technically something that'll affect the community, we should make a service announcement
It's very hard to get everyone to read the policy- snippets may or may not work. but then there's the question who will go around reminding members and how often? How much is enough? Especially with the new members... *screams*
It's just this little text link at the bottom of every page, and also right at the end of the top menu bar... perhaps we can make it more prominent like "SUPPORTTTT CLICK MEEE" (which is why my userpage skin design says that the support section needs love >.>) - or in a more prominent place? A link in your control panel?
Maybe after logging in after like being inactive for a year you are prompted with "have you read the latest version of our policy?" (but then that's like a quiz, and it won't work
)
Well, we'll figure out something...
I'm not really going to comment on those posts until they get really extreme and annoying.
I've deleted several from the Deletions Complaint forum (like
prior to today) because he doesn't read the Clarification thread, and happens to
like to comment randomly when he's not clear of our policy at all. It's kind
of... hatred.
EDIT/ BUSTED!
As for that Jason guy, I already wrote him a post on his thread, and it's basically his responsibility to reply to me. I don't have the time to go around chasing up everyone- especially when I've made myself very clear.
Last but not least with the Japanese translation of the policy, despite the small number of actual Japanese members in comparison to other nationalities, because we're a Japanese culture orientated site, I do believe that there will be some interest to have a policy in Japanese- because that's what we're about. I guess it doesn't really make much sense if you don't have a Japanese page, when it's about Japanese animation.
Wow this groups still alive and kicking.
Oh the age old question of how do we get members aware of the rules. Well in the end it's just going to be a losing battle I suppose. Heck I'll admit I never read the bloody policy either.
Taking specific snippets from the policy actual might work. Pain the in butt for us but I mean if it'll work hey why not give it a shot. Although there is that chance that it'll backfire and things will just end up staying the same. Let's face members aren't happy in general. They're tired of us making all these changes. By us quoting specific rules all the time well let's just put it this way it might not make them any happier. Heck they think we already have too many rules as is. If you look at some of the recent post by http://vatican92.minitokyo.net you'll see what I mean. Non chat lounge posts that is.
Uh probably just contradicted myself big time there but oh well . In short I think it's a good idea to try and find different means of informing members of the rules is a good idea rather then posting a link and teling them to read.
Well, I supposed you can offer to question him (by pm) once he announces he has understood.
From the perspective of these members, the policy looks too long for them to be read.
I suggest we can point to them which section they need to know (step-by-step learning) because the 'off thing' is they may think they need to read the whole scroll to understand their mistake. For example, if they repeat the mistake in gallery section, point to them the gallery rules. It may sound like we are pampering them, but (will that be?) solving lasting problems once and for all
[Confession
: i never read the policy too when I first joined in, but learned
them by observation on others (despite the registration's first page is policy
scroll) 
]
___________________________________________
I would say that project would benefit greatly. ^____________^ it may even encouraged more interaction (participation) and would help a lot to bridge understanding.
For the Japanese part, i don't really think there are a lot of Japanese members here either. There are many who fake their nationality out of racial-novelty
___________________________________________
There's this doujinshi which I guess need clarification:
In this painting arashi (i painted from Arashi by Clamp) by x2006 the owner is said to have photographed rather than scanned it because it is A3 size (note the 4th post).
But as i download it, it doesn't seem low in quality (and even listed as elite!).
Randomly: My parents are from Hong Kong and I've been there about 5 times in my life. A lot of them are very well educated and fluent in english- some aren't, but that's because they probably never really liked learning it, like my cousin for instance. He only knows how to say "cheeseburger", because I taught him that
PPS: He is now 24 years old
=====
As for second languages, there was a large project with the manga and multilingual policy thingy that just flopped.
If that project could get underway that'd be great- it'd really be of great help to those who can't understand much english at all.
I'm not going to even talk about people who know english yet don't bother to read the policy...
Perhaps we can restart that project? Just in the really big languages:
- Chinese
- Japanese
- French
- Spanish
- Tagalog/ Filipino (because their community here is hugeeee)
(Less obvious)
- German, Italian, Dutch, Korean (?)
I dunno. It'd take a long time especially since Minitokyo doesn't seem to support "characters" very well (being chinese).
I could do the Chinese one (at a very slow rate) and bits of the Japanese... but hmmm. I guess we'll have to see o_o
EDIT/ as for warnings, I never give newbies warnings. I give them friendly guestbook posts, but anyone floating around for more than a month I think should have read the policy by then- especially if they've had an item already deleted before ;D
Tags look at quantity rather than quality so I personally haven't looked twice at them
The amount of people who receive a first warning for the simple fact they didn't read the policy is high. I no longer hand out warnings for a single rip in the first day or so of membership because of this, I've also found that once one item is removed the botchii message generally turns a light on.
Also those who go on to receive second warnings are often those who have English as a second language, that is many people probably wouldn't be able to read the policy and make sense of it anyway. For example the member there was from Hong Kong, so it does become difficult to determine individual circumstances on the internet. Making sure people understand the rules before they're unrestricted.......we could always create a policy exam
but
that wouldn't work very well either.
lol......i heard that there's even a 'leecher' tag. i wonder how long is needed in order to obtain that tag since leeching isn't participating?
btw, regarding this person mingcheongjasonskychan you've just restricted, i guess he doesn't really understand one simple thing: copyrights
in his pm to me:
(note the first line he wrote)
he seems sooo lazy to read the policy. i guess it's going to be 'back to basics' old school teachings.
so, i think it will go a long way for him. added with that sheer laziness, man, how on earth is he going to demonstrate that he understood the gallery rules.....
Because the system isn't very intelligent- it only looks at the stats and not the quality of stats. It's also because perhaps her activity has been pretty high for the time she's been here- which isn't long.
merged: 05-11-2007 ~ 07:00am
Rephrase: it's not possible to write the system up to look at the quality of stats- chances are if you think that long posts are better quality, think again: there are spam posts repeating themselves over and over.
Nevertheless, the tags aren't very meaningful at this stage- it's only when they are searchable and become actual links when this will be a problem. I think that tags are being worked on, though
*ahem* i wonder if i can bring up this rather dumb question......?
why is this http://hellcat666.minitokyo.net/ getting all the nice tags when she doesn't really contribute well here? what's wrong with the system? ><
;D Done!
*whistles a happy tune* ^_^
Hmm I overlooked the factor of monitor resolutions. Yes I do have a widescreen monitor on my laptop, 1280x800.
So how about we keep the banner the way it was and just put use html to center it, so who ever come to the page will have it centered regardless of monitor size? Adding white space doesn't look as good as before.
Sorry to cause you trouble misa.
Go misa!
EP: Do you have a larger screen/ wider screen than me?
Here's my screenshot:
(Yah, my monitor is still the ole 1024x768. When I got it at the time, I thought to myself, "17" will never make it big!" and ho! Widescreens and all ;D)
I guess I can tweak the div background and center the banner...
merged: 05-06-2007 ~ 08:20pm
... ha. ha.
I forgot the screenshot
merged: 05-06-2007 ~ 08:28pm
Okay, I mucked around with the html, but I don't know if it did anything because I can't stretch my window
Give me a shout if it still isn't centered or doesn't have a white background... and I'll tweak the jpeg instead
Misa, do you wanna tweak the banner so it fills the entire width of the center column rather than leave a chunk blank to the right? It could be as simple as extending the gray backdrop to "here to help" out for another ~100 pixels on each side. I think it'd look better if our banner filled up the entire width, since everything else is centered.
merged: 05-06-2007 ~ 01:24pm
Go Misa!
Okay.
So I did a little bit of stuff with the group page.
What next? The group avatar/ banner contest has already been announced (with very minimal response
).
Should we start doing a "CHAOTIC UPDATES ISSUE 01" etc every 2 weeks when the announcement gets purged off the page D:
@_____@ arghargh?
GO GO YEAH YEAH, MISA MISA!~
lololololol.......mod EternalParadox a cheerleader?
I like "Chaotic Updates." We should make that the official name of our group updates.
Go misa! Yay!
btw,i wonder why is this tread still alive?.....>>>> L, Near or Mello? Who's your favourite Death Note orphan?
fireflywishes has already gave "+Favorites and versus threads" warning, yet, it's still continued....
*EDITED*
tread now closed
I don't mind huhuuhuuuu ^w^
As long as we link each other, I guess all is good and happy
Sorry EP! I was hacking up cardboard for the past few days
This weekend will be another wave of CHAOTIC UPDATES >D
Getit... Chaotic-Chaos?
Omg.
Don't die, group. =)
Go misa!
i see
^_^' well, it's common around that anime groups can be afiliated with anyone though
A common practice without restriction, i mean
it's all because my administered groups are anime-related. but what i mean here is to publicized this group. i don't think anyone has ever pass by this group. we should be in service with anyone outside there
I don't see why we can't affiliate with anime related groups ^_^