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Did Oceansoul ever post anything? Did he/she delete it?... Anyways, welcome Oceansoul! :)

Welcome oceansoul to the group! ^^

Kingray's sent me a PM like that before, though he asked me for advice. ^_^'
It was a few months ago though... >.<

Quote by kingray100well to start off,im surprised nobody has opposed my side on how I feel about the whole muslim enterprise of Islam....Guess I must have a firm stand in this type of debate...anyway...

I think somebody is getting away with murder here.

You know, somehow I'm surprised he's still up to this stuff. Maybe it's because I don't have time anymore to go looking for these debates...and with people like him dominating them, I don't even have the interest.

Quote by DarkRoseofHellkingray is preaching in PM form -.-, thats... annoying...

I've debated him before in PM form. After several PMs, we are currently at an unofficial ceasefire initiated by him. In other words, I've sent him a rebuttal and he's yet to respond.

Quote by Shinsengumi89Regurgitation anyone?

May we look at the unedited version?

Um, yeah he PMed me, no idea why -.-

Quote by DarkRoseofHellPreaching, umm, being an annoying person? Thats... a nice way to put it -.-

But you said in PM form so is he PMing you?

Also this disturbs me..... I edited who said this.

Quote:

Quote: Muhammed was a nobody who seemed confused and neutral about his religion...but he clearly states that he liked the ideas of the Judiasm and Christianity.Afterwards,(my theory),he kept balancing these two religions he liked so much,probably studying them at least a little,and coming to the conclusion....

yeah, my teacher told that, too. he keep saying that islam isnt rite n has different theory with christian, bcoz Muhammad is like ehm,.. made a religion, inspired with those ideas-i forgot wut ideas.

Regurgitation anyone?

Preaching, umm, being an annoying person? Thats... a nice way to put it -.-

Quote by DarkRoseofHellkingray is preaching in PM form -.-, thats... annoying...

He's What?

kingray is preaching in PM form -.-, thats... annoying...

Quote by ProgramZEROWhat are some of the issues being tackled in this here analysis?

Get ready this is going to be one long post, and no offense to anyone here who is religious.

Well to start off I decided it would be much more prudent to tackle the issue of religion(and Only the Religions of Abraham IE Judaism, Christianity, and Islam) and not the issue of the existence of a god. However the main focus shall be Christianity.

I will in order, describe each religions separate beliefs and influences on the world today. (For Example Turkey is an Example of a Moderate Islamic State and Saudi Arabia is an Example of a Extremist Islamic State).

After Introducing the Religions at hand i will pose the question are these religions a necessity? And then state the answer no and give proof.

I will deal with common rebuttals such as
"religion creates moral order"
"Art and media would not be beautiful without religion"
Pascals wager
"there would be no meaning without religion"

After the previous step, i shall write about the Abrahamic Religions misdeeds to the world. I will be using references, facts and quotes.

These will be the main talking points

Religion Incites Violence
Social Evolution Prevention
Economic and Scientific Growth Prevention

Last but not least I will introduce the Alternatives to Religion including Non-Theisitic religion(Buddhism), Deism, and The Spectrum of Atheism. I call it a spectrum because it includes everything from a free thinker to an agnostic to an ignostic.


This is a rougher version of what my actual revised outline looks like.


Quote by Shinsengumi89Well Mac.... unless your a hardcore gamer on the PC(due to the fact Mac's don't really support many games. But really they are amazing against viruses'. Have amazing graphics and you tend to get lots of bonuses. So for me a mac is better, though we also have a new PC now too.

I don't really game nor do I do much with movie editing and such... That low-virus risk sounds pretty good since I'm always fearful of downloading something bad. I've gotten a Trojan Horse before and it wasn't a joyful experience.

Quote: On another note I'm writing an analysis on religion and god on my free time, it's going to be a four step book/report.(though it's just for my own intellectual stimulation). So if anyone has any good website suggestions for references or if anyone wants themselves quoted in this little "book" of mine just go ahead and tell me.

What are some of the issues being tackled in this here analysis?

Quote by BobaFett2ha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLiyglcRcCA
Need I say more?

Is this pro PC or pro Mac? I can't tell? It shows the PC beating up on a Mac so I think it's pro PC...

Quote by ProgramZEROWhat's better; Mac or PC? I've got a PC like many other people and have never owned a Mac but I'm curious. Which is better in your opinion?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KLiyglcRcCA
Need I say more?

This freaks me out... this guy is the republicans lead choice for president.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/

You can actually get Mac for your PC too, :P. My friend installed all three OS's for his laptop once -.-, don't know why... (Mac, Windows, Linux) I think he was bored.

Well for irony you can get Microsoft Office X or other versions with your Mac.


PS. This is a Great debate between a Rabbi and a bestselling Atheist/Spiritualist Author.

http://www.jewishtvnetwork.com/?bcpid=533363107&bctid=1329234778

It depends on what you're going after actually. If you're looking for more of a media type thing (audio, video, movie, etc) it'd be mac. If you're looking for games and stuff, it'd be PC. If you're looking for more of a business thing, well, both of them would be okay for it, but using Linux would be best as its harder to hack, less or even no virus, and such things, since it is for business... :P

Well Mac.... unless your a hardcore gamer on the PC(due to the fact Mac's don't really support many games. But really they are amazing against viruses'. Have amazing graphics and you tend to get lots of bonuses. So for me a mac is better, though we also have a new PC now too.

On another note I'm writing an analysis on religion and god on my free time, it's going to be a four step book/report.(though it's just for my own intellectual stimulation). So if anyone has any good website suggestions for references or if anyone wants themselves quoted in this little "book" of mine just go ahead and tell me .

I already have multiple reference books.

A history of God
The Holy Bible
The Koran
The God Delusion
The Quotable Atheist
The Portable Atheist
Buddhism Inspirations

What's better; Mac or PC? I've got a PC like many other people and have never owned a Mac but I'm curious. Which is better in your opinion?

Welcome back. At least you had a good Christmas. Getting a Mac would cheer me up anytime ^^

Oh, not trying to bring up the discussion again, but you dudes seemed to soak in sarcasm in the most intelligent - yet somewhat rude - manner XD No offense intended.

Deja Vu,

I know i've been gone for approximatly three months but that is due to what is known as a broken computer, a filled appointment book and a senior year in high school. I recived a mac computer for christmas so now i'm free to type away.

and on another note, i was not fighting normal ninjas just fighting republican evangelical anti environmental ninjas.

Shinsengumi89

Merry Christmas Eve to you too. ^^ ...and He deserves it. :D

Hope everyone stays safe over the holiday... its been crazy here. o_0

Merry Christmas Eve. :D

I gave up on reading the discussion a week ago. >_<

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