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hi there everybody... well i just so happen to drop by to ask if anyone here has ever made a goblin deck before. to be honest, im not really into the new releases... i prefer the old cards *sorry*. so i was wondering if any of you guys ever had a goblin deck before, and what is it made of? sorry if this is question is rather stupid, but i am aiming to build an undefeatable goblin deck..... =P. so if any of you have suggestions, please pour in. thx in advance

Quote by SpystreakYes I have looked at those spirits the very few that there are and most are defenders or have extremely high costs. Added to the fact that most are blue with some that are mulit colored. I just find that their abilities just suck on some one of them if you defended once you have to return it to your hand and then have to pay to bring it out which if I remember correctly was around 7

It is up to the player whether a card is good or not. I agree that zephyr spirit(card mentioned in quote) has too little merit to be a good card in most cases. Blue, black and white have a bulk of ravnica block's spirits, so a deck using 2 out of 3 colors would be good to make, all colors can focus on stalling the opponent, so defenders are not a problem. Stalling could be used in millers or bleeders, and can be reinforced with kamigawa spirits.

Just to illusterte a point that ravnica block spirits have uses.

Additional info:
Ravnica spirits - 14
white-4, blue-4, black-2, green-2, U/B-2
Guildpact spirits - 10
white-3, blue-1, black-2, red-1, green-1, W/B-2

Quote by quickbrownfoxOne thing though, spirits haven't fazed out yet in ravnica block. This helps add variation in spirit based decks. Arcane is a different story.

Yes I have looked at those spirits the very few that there are and most are defenders or have extremely high costs. Added to the fact that most are blue with some that are mulit colored. I just find that their abilities just suck on some one of them if you defended once you have to return it to your hand and then have to pay to bring it out which if I remember correctly was around 7

One thing though, spirits haven't fazed out yet in ravnica block. This helps add variation in spirit based decks. Arcane is a different story.

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Quote by LoydI think that the new set ravinca is good compared to kamigawa


Kamigawa had alot of spirits that packed a punch if used in the right manner as well as the itroduciton of defenders which I thought added a new twist to game play

I do agree with the spirit theme on Kamigawa, but i feel it made it a lot like the old Shadow themes back on the Tempest block, the mechanics do not interact that well with the rest of the expansions. However, they are pretty nice.

Defenders have always been on Magic, since the beginning. The only difference is that they were called "this creature cannot block", pretty much the same with Vigilance, wich was "attacking does not cause this creature to tap"

I have not been able to grab any product still from GUILDPACT, have you?
Whant do you think on the new 3 color combinations?

That's because guildpact to my knowledge hasn't come out yet not till sometime this month if I read right.

Defenders I never really knew about I started playing around Legions.

Yeah spirits do kinda stick out but I think they hold their own even add a new twist to the game. No I don't feel they are like the cards with shadow those things were in a league of their own since nothing save a instant/sorcery/artifact/or another shadow creature could destroy them

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Quote by LoydI think that the new set ravinca is good compared to kamigawa


Kamigawa had alot of spirits that packed a punch if used in the right manner as well as the itroduciton of defenders which I thought added a new twist to game play

I do agree with the spirit theme on Kamigawa, but i feel it made it a lot like the old Shadow themes back on the Tempest block, the mechanics do not interact that well with the rest of the expansions. However, they are pretty nice.

Defenders have always been on Magic, since the beginning. The only difference is that they were called "this creature cannot block", pretty much the same with Vigilance, wich was "attacking does not cause this creature to tap"

I have not been able to grab any product still from GUILDPACT, have you?
Whant do you think on the new 3 color combinations?

Quote by LoydI think that the new set ravinca is good compared to kamigawa

I still am iffy on the greatness of ravinca. I preferred kamigawa more but that's because of what I usually play with card wise. Kamigawa had alot of spirits that packed a punch if used in the right manner as well as the itroduciton of defenders which I thought added a new twist to game play

I think that the new set ravinca is good compared to kamigawa

soooooo has anyone seen the new set that's coming out in february. I've looked through some cards but not all so I'm still iffy about it.

http://www.cardkingdom.com/index.php?sid=314787729&main=catalog&mode=singles&category_id=110045

A good trivia for the Magic Lovers:

Where is my current avatar image from?

merged: 01-08-2006 ~ 09:32am
ok, trivia ended

merged: 01-23-2006 ~ 07:18am
Well, Guildpact has came out, what do you think?

Quote by ImperaI think that on this last expansion set, there are some broken cards, they are very powerfull and very expensive also >.<
What do you think of Szadek Lord of Secrets, Vulturous Zombie, Glimpse the Unthinkable, Circu Dimir Lobotomist, Dimir Cutpurse, SunForger, Helix, Putrefy and such?

My insight on the mentioned cards:
Well, these cards are considered powerful, thus the price tags. Lightning Helix and Putrefy are uncommon for power balancing because they don't want to put all good cards at rare. Some cards have limitations. Szadek is a 7 to cast card, so its power is understandable(it's not expensive where I live). Circu and Dimir Cutpurse are fragile and the cutpurse have no built-in evasion. Glimpse is pretty powerful though especially with transmute, but woudn't win every game. Vulturous Aombie would need a good hand to empower because only opponents cards can give it counters. Sunforger is a bullseye for artifact destruction.

I think that on this last expansion set, there are some broken cards, they are very powerfull and very expensive also >.<
What do you think of Szadek Lord of Secrets, Vulturous Zombie, Glimpse the Unthinkable, Circu Dimir Lobotomist, Dimir Cutpurse, SunForger, Helix, Putrefy and such?

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Then, when banding, if an oponent attacks with say, 3 creatures (2 with banding and 1 without) the attacker decides how to distribute the damage among any blocking creatures blocking that attack.
This is opposed to the normal attack procedure, in wich the defender normally decides how to distribute the damage among his\her blocking creatures.

Hope this helps XD XP

additional info on banding:
If one creature in a band is blocked, the whole band is blocked, so if your band has 1 flying creature and 1 nonflying creature, the band can be blocked by a nonflying creature.

Clarification: on the above quote, it states that the defending player decides how combat damage is distributed to the blockers, and an attacking band lets the attacking player choose.

It's actually the opposite. the attacker normally distributes damage to the blockers and blocking with a creature with banding lets the defending player distribute damage among blockers.

ex.4/4 creature attacks. You block with 4 1/1 creatures. In this case, the attacker distributes the combat damage between blockers. All 4 1/1's will die.
if one of the blockers have banding, you can assign all 4 damage to one blocker, saving you 3 creatures.

Ok my name is max Robinson I have bin playing for 7 years.
I would like to join my favorites are all Angels akroma angel of wrath

Well, Ravnica's been looking pretty good to me, art and ability-wise. I can't wait for the blue-red guild to come out! XD

Quote by KeikBanding. In Frontier Magic, the banding ability lets you stack more than one creature on a land card. They'll attack as one creature: Combine their power and toughness. A stack of creatures can have an unlimited number of creatures with banding, and one creature without banding. The whole stack calculates its terrain bonus only once, but it gets the +1/+1 even if only one creature has the right color for that land. Creatures that have "banding when attacking," or banding under other conditions, have it all the time in Frontier Magic.

I do not quite understand the line "lets you stack more than one creature on a LAND card"
i do not get the meaning of the LAND card, can you explain?

As far as i know, Banding lets you make a pack of creatures with the same hability (banding) and you can add up to 1 more creature to the pack, that last one lacking the banding hability. This allows to attack as 1 big creature (hard to block) and you can still attack with your remainant creatures (independently).

Then, when banding, if an oponent attacks with say, 3 creatures (2 with banding and 1 without) the attacker decides how to distribute the damage among any blocking creatures blocking that attack.
This is opposed to the normal attack procedure, in wich the defender normally decides how to distribute the damage among his\her blocking creatures.

Hope this helps XD XP

Banding. In Frontier Magic, the banding ability lets you stack more than one creature on a land card. They'll attack as one creature: Combine their power and toughness. A stack of creatures can have an unlimited number of creatures with banding, and one creature without banding. The whole stack calculates its terrain bonus only once, but it gets the +1/+1 even if only one creature has the right color for that land. Creatures that have "banding when attacking," or banding under other conditions, have it all the time in Frontier Magic.

hi there everyone, I was just looking through some old versions of magic and i found one particular effect that i dont know ... can any of you explain whats 'banding'

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Personally had thought of those colors as strong even before the kamigawa block. Especially in regards with the Zombies, Wizards, and Green Beasts. Combined with the right artifacts, instants, and sorcerys they were quite a formidable opponent. I honestly don't like Ravinaca I've seen all the cards and I just went meh. I have no plans on getting any of the cards.

Not even because of the images ? I do like some of the cards just because of the art ! Specially the FIREMANE ANGEL FOIL, it looks SUPERB !


No I don't like the art the only good card I found that I liked the art too was the Ordruun Commando. Everything else either looked cheesy or too generic. Even that angel is generic it looks similar to angels they have released in the past. The position I mean I know they use similar designs for the angels and stuff.

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Personally had thought of those colors as strong even before the kamigawa block. Especially in regards with the Zombies, Wizards, and Green Beasts. Combined with the right artifacts, instants, and sorcerys they were quite a formidable opponent. I honestly don't like Ravinaca I've seen all the cards and I just went meh. I have no plans on getting any of the cards.

Not even because of the images ? I do like some of the cards just because of the art ! Specially the FIREMANE ANGEL FOIL, it looks SUPERB !

Quote by ImperaWell, after taking a loong look at the Ravnica initial set, it looks pretty good, has very nice technickes, and besides, it does improve a lot multicolor playing. Personally, i think that gree black and black blue are very strong colors now.
What do you think ?

Personally had thought of those colors as strong even before the kamigawa block. Especially in regards with the Zombies, Wizards, and Green Beasts. Combined with the right artifacts, instants, and sorcerys they were quite a formidable opponent. I honestly don't like Ravinaca I've seen all the cards and I just went meh. I have no plans on getting any of the cards.

Im back hi folks an i have a lote of new good old Cards :)
I hope i have the time to play MTG in the next weeks :)

Well, after taking a loong look at the Ravnica initial set, it looks pretty good, has very nice technickes, and besides, it does improve a lot multicolor playing. Personally, i think that gree black and black blue are very strong colors now.
What do you think ?

Hey people long time no talk but i am alive and do i got some news for tshi group the NEW magic CARD SET IS ravnice don't start cheering it blows already there are now guilds booooo but visit this site to see the cards http://gatherer.wizards.com/?first=1&last=100&term=&Field_Name=on&Field_Rules=on&Field_Type=on&setfilter=RavnicaBlock&colorfilter=All&typefilter=All&output=summary&sort=name&x=28&y=25

merged: 11-18-2005 ~ 01:43am
OK people sorry about my stupind thoughts i didn't understand the whole rule set but after further reveiw Ravince owns the house ravince makes up ground where the kamigawa set broke down

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